As Danny said, the Northern board box was green. There were two editions of the Southern board game but both boxes were red. The difference between them was...
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jessedn51
Aug 1, 2009 7:56 pm
Hi, I am newly getting into 18XX games and would like to be able to play them more regularly if possible. Are there any other 18XX players on here that are in...
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Beard, Bruce D.
beardbruce77
Aug 2, 2009 11:47 pm
21 players showed up for the 3rd annual DERail tournament in Newark DE. Some players got 4 games in SAT (9am-midnight) and 2 on Sunday (9-5). Games played...
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Dave Thorby
dave4b
Aug 3, 2009 1:33 pm
We had an unusual situation in a 1861 game yesterday. A minor company had no train, 2 loans and R370. It paid R110 to repay the loans, leaving it R260. It then...
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Chris Shaffer
chris_shaffer
Aug 3, 2009 1:38 pm
Yes. -- Chris Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
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kg33327@...
aorkg
Aug 3, 2009 1:39 pm
That is correct, but the question is, how did it have 370 and 2 loans from the previous turn? In a message dated 8/3/2009 9:33:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ...
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Chris Shaffer
chris_shaffer
Aug 3, 2009 2:00 pm
Take 2 loans, buy a T4. Sell T4 for 370. -- Chris Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. ... [Non-text portions of this message have...
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Beard, Bruce D.
beardbruce77
Aug 3, 2009 2:05 pm
1861: I assume it had two loans and another minor or major bought a train from it. 1856 question: If the CGR forms with a second issue and 20 shares, each...
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Dave Thorby
dave4b
Aug 3, 2009 2:26 pm
It took out 2 loans to buy a 3-train and then bought a 2-train across with its remaining money. Two other companies then bought out the trains for a total of...
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Keith Thomasson
fwtdr
Aug 3, 2009 3:47 pm
... It couts as a single certificate. This is covered, but not in the section about the CGR, unfortunately. It appears on page 6, under Share and Certificate...
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jonaflagg@...
jonflagg
Aug 3, 2009 4:37 pm
It would be illogical to me to have a trainless company repay its loans prior to purchasing a new train from the bank. Logically a trainless company should...
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rckrll4ever
Aug 3, 2009 4:47 pm
According to the rules in section 5.5 what happened would seem to be correct as they occur in this order. · Pay Loan interest on old Loans. · Redeem Loans....
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Craig Bartell
craigbartell
Aug 3, 2009 4:50 pm
Redeeming loans is optional. The player should have paid the $10 in interest out of the $370, leaving $360 to buy trains. Paying the loans off wasted another...
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rckrll4ever
Aug 3, 2009 4:58 pm
Where in the rules of 1861 does it say that redeeming loans is optional for minors? It is required to do so from what I know. 5.5.7 of the rules clearly...
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Craig Bartell
craigbartell
Aug 3, 2009 5:02 pm
You are correct. We have been playing wrong the last few years. Bummer. Craig...
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Beard, Bruce D.
beardbruce77
Aug 3, 2009 5:08 pm
Thanks Keith. ________________________________ From: 18xx@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Keith Thomasson Sent: Mon 8/3/2009 11:46 AM To: 18xx@yahoogroups.com ...
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Chris Shaffer
chris_shaffer
Aug 3, 2009 5:20 pm
Logically, the steps of the operating round must be performed in order. There are no provisions in the "pay interest" and "repay loans" step for a company that...
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Chris Shaffer
chris_shaffer
Aug 3, 2009 5:21 pm
Redeeming loans is not optional. -- Chris Please consider the environment before printing this e-mail. ... [Non-text portions of this message have been...
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Ian D Wilson
ianwilson156...
Aug 3, 2009 5:26 pm
Yes. I had an identical situation at Manorcon 2 weeks ago. The KB bought across a second 2T (to let my other company buy a 3T), and then had to build...
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Ian D Wilson
ianwilson156...
Aug 3, 2009 5:28 pm
Undoubtedly, the rules as written do create an unrealisic scenario in this (unusual) case. In real life, a company with just enough cash to buy the next set of...
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allen stancius
astancius
Aug 3, 2009 5:39 pm
that's true chris. all companies must: lay track (if possible) lay token with funds only in treasury. run trains if owned prior to the current operating round....
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Beard, Bruce D.
beardbruce77
Aug 3, 2009 6:33 pm
Before we descend into the depths of a sarcastic pissing match, I am reminded of Mike Coyne's classic response to a previous rules question: "Your...
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David G.D. Hecht
dhecht05
Aug 3, 2009 7:03 pm
... From: "Beard, Bruce D." <bruce_d_beard@...> To: <18xx@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 2:32 PM Subject: RE: [18xx] Alan's sarcastic...
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Beard, Bruce D.
beardbruce77
Aug 4, 2009 5:26 pm
Lou thinks Allen was just summarizing the steps. I thought he was saying saying companies MUST do things that are optional: like lay track place tokens buy...
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Morgan
mdontanville
Aug 4, 2009 11:46 pm
Hi all, I'm looking to get EU on the table this weekend and it seems that (including myself) I only have three people available to give it a go. None of us...
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John A. Tamplin
john_a_tamplin
Aug 4, 2009 11:48 pm
... I think 3 is a great number for 18EU. -- John A. Tamplin jat@... 770/436-5387 HOME 4116 Manson Ave Smyrna, GA 30082-3723...
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Chris Shaffer
chris_shaffer
Aug 5, 2009 12:03 am
Three is the perfect number. Just make sure each player gets 5 minors. If someone gets 6, declare them the winner and start over :-) -- Chris Please consider...
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nonteadrinker
Aug 5, 2009 12:29 am
Whoever bids most for 2 is probably going to bid high for 12 as well.By the time they've done that,ther's a good chance,they39;ll only get 4 minors.And if they...
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Chris Shaffer
chris_shaffer
Aug 5, 2009 12:41 am
So don't let them get both 2 and 12! -- Chris Shaffer Please consider the environment before printing this email. On Aug 4, 2009, at 5:28 PM, "nonteadrinker"...
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nonteadrinker
Aug 5, 2009 12:48 am
So,if they bid high for 2,and then bid high for 12,no one is going to want to bid even higher for 12 when they themselves don't have 2.What will probably...