Hi everybody! Michael Bünker asked me to write a short history of developing 1837. Here it is: As a young greenhorn I was very fond of 1830 and 1835, so I...
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Alex Rhomberg
rhomberg@xxx.xx.xxxx....
May 3, 1999 8:25 am
Hi I wrote a working 1849 module for Lemmis moderator. If anybody is interested, I can send it with explanations. - Alex -- ...
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Alex Rhomberg
rhomberg@xxx.xx.xxxx....
May 4, 1999 1:24 pm
See http://www.ife.ee.ethz.ch/~rhomberg/1849.html if interested -- _________________________________________________________________ /...
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Hogue Eric T Contract...
Eric.Hogue@xxxxx.xx.x...
May 5, 1999 8:29 pm
I am not familiar with all of the variants there so perhaps this idea is being used. Also, it is unlikely that I will ever have a chance to design a game of my...
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Michael Brünker
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May 6, 1999 9:58 am
... I think some of your ideas exist in some variants. ... This idea is new. But why should a player buy shares of growth companies? He doesn't get cash to...
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Lawson Chris
ChrisR.Lawson@xxx.xxxx
May 6, 1999 10:27 am
... Here are some comments, all IMHO of course so please ignore as you see fit ... OK, what am I missing here? Why would anyone want to open such a company, ...
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Hogue Eric T Contract...
Eric.Hogue@xxxxx.xx.x...
May 6, 1999 11:48 am
... They will be the ones whose stock values can reach the maximum on the table, dividend paying companies will max out at their revenue. Also, while they ...
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Steve Thomas
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May 6, 1999 11:51 am
... This idea isn't in use in any game with which I'm familiar. 2038 has "growth corporations", but they are different beasts altogether. (Normal "public"...
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Michael Brünker
Michael.Bruenker@xxxx...
May 6, 1999 12:00 pm
... I don't consider such aspects because I always play with Lemmis program. Nevertheless I added a dividend payout track to 1898 as Chris did it in 1851. ... ...
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Michael Brünker
Michael.Bruenker@xxxx...
May 6, 1999 12:07 pm
... I highly agree to Steve. It was my first thought that corporations that don't pay dividends would increase in stock value rapidly but then I noticed that...
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Hogue Eric T Contract...
Eric.Hogue@xxxxx.xx.x...
May 6, 1999 12:08 pm
... Admittedly, it may be my inexperience, but I see two advantages to starting a growth company early: after you rob the treasury, it will rebuild itself so...
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Michael Brünker
Michael.Bruenker@xxxx...
May 6, 1999 12:27 pm
... This depends on the share price index and the rules concerned to it. But you are right in gerneral that a corporation will maximize the profit for the...
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Alex Rhomberg
rhomberg@xxx.xx.xxxx....
May 6, 1999 12:31 pm
... I am the fastest player in our group, but I can easily imagine myself falling in a coma while I consider all the options: "Ok, no it's my turn with 5...
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Steve Thomas
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May 6, 1999 12:43 pm
... Aha! I see now why you believe growth companies are better in some respects than dividend companies. In most 18xx games, the early stagen consist of...
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Steve Thomas
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May 6, 1999 12:52 pm
... Making things complicated slows the game down in two respects. The minor one is that marking the changes on the board and shuffling money into the right...
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Hogue Eric T Contract...
Eric.Hogue@xxxxx.xx.x...
May 6, 1999 1:02 pm
... <snip> ... Being able to buy a supermajority means shares can later be sold/ redeemed without risking a presidency (and there is always money to redeem)....
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Lawson Chris
ChrisR.Lawson@xxx.xxxx
May 6, 1999 1:22 pm
... time ... all / ... to ... lengthen ... It does depend on the players but for most I think it will slow the game down to a crawl. To take another example....
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huttm@xxxxxxxx.xx.xx
May 6, 1999 1:38 pm
Most people seem to regard small cities (and hence minor stations) as a bit of a problem/pain in most 18XX titles, in that generally they get in the way &...
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Lawson Chris
ChrisR.Lawson@xxx.xxxx
May 6, 1999 1:39 pm
Must say it is nice to see a healthy little discussion going on :-) ... I still do not see the advantage of purchasing any of these shares. The same applies to...
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Lawson Chris
ChrisR.Lawson@xxx.xxxx
May 6, 1999 1:58 pm
... Some people like this situation and do not actually see it as a problem. Diesels in 1830 are one 'solution' and N+n trains in 1835 are another. In fact if...
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Steve Thomas
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May 6, 1999 2:05 pm
... In 1830 they are a nuisance, unless you have a Diesel. In 1856 they are a nuisance but you can flatten them or convert them to real cities. In 1870 they...
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Steve Thomas
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May 6, 1999 2:10 pm
... I don't have access to any machine-readable 1835 rules, in any language, and, after I lent it out, my own 1835 set does not have its English rules. Can...
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Lawson Chris
ChrisR.Lawson@xxx.xxxx
May 6, 1999 2:25 pm
... companies ... money ... than ... game ... Just a point I want to raise here. Many people consider the amount of money the bank contains at the start of the...
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Alex Rhomberg
rhomberg@xxx.xx.xxxx....
May 6, 1999 3:16 pm
I recently played my first game of 1837 and a question came up: Trains are required to stop at least at two stations. Coal mines do not count as stations. Was...
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Lawson Chris
ChrisR.Lawson@xxx.xxxx
May 6, 1999 3:28 pm
... Sounds like this is another one for Uncle Steve :-) It has been covered in his 1837 Rules Clarifications and Amendments document which is available on...
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Steve Thomas
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May 6, 1999 3:26 pm
... My Clarifications and Amendments page (you *did* look there, didn't you?) reads, in part: {II.2, VII.1, VIII.2, VIII.4} Coal companies may not own...
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Lawson Chris
ChrisR.Lawson@xxx.xxxx
May 6, 1999 4:16 pm
... A number of games have introduced a bonus that goes straight into the company treasury. For example, 1853 and 1899 have introduced a 'Mail Run' which...
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Paul R. Work
pwork@xx.xxxx.xxxx
May 6, 1999 4:23 pm
Howdy Y'all, ... I have a soft copy of the first edition rules (dated 1993) in English. I can't remember if I typed them in or translated the first edition...
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John David Galt
jdg@xxxxx.xxxx
May 6, 1999 5:30 pm
... I don't believe this. Where is it stated in the rules? 1841 actually makes the problem worse. Not only do the "dits" always count and never go away, the...
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John David Galt
jdg@...
May 6, 1999 5:35 pm
... This happened to me also. I wrote to Mayfair through their web site, www.coolgames.com, and they sent me a new set free. John David Galt...
